To receive any questions and or statements relating to any items of the Council powers/ duties or which otherwise affects the District and items on the agenda from members of the public.
Minutes:
Goff Welchman
Chair of the Council:
Thank you for your questions, I would be rejecting these questions for this meeting as the questions you submitted are substantially the same questions as were asked at the Cabinet Meeting on the 9th July 2024, answers were provided at the meeting as well as a written response.
Leader of the Council:
I am disappointed to have read in the Tiverton Gazette today that Mr Welchman stated I refused to read his questions at Cabinet. All councillors and members of public present could confirm I read his questions and also gave responses to those questions. I would sincerely hope and ask that Mr Welchman considers a secondary letter to the Gazette to let the readers know of his error. Thank you
Mrs Hannah Kearns
At the Audit Committee of the 25th June 2024, I asked various questions related to the high redundancy package provided to the 3 Rivers Managing Director. Someone who was a previous MDDC senior employee.
One question askes was as follows ‘The Compensation and Pension Contribution figures seem excessive for someone with only three year’s service and at £143,264.
The answer received from the Cabinet Member for Governance, Finance and Risk was and I quote ‘The applicable length of service included the previous service at Mid Devon District Council’.
It had been identified in the MDDC Budget Statement of Accounts and for the year 2020-2021 Page 145 that a payment was made to the same individual and for a sum of £33,000 or equivalent to 6 months’ salary.
The reason for this £33,000 payment is given in a table on Page 145 as ‘Compensation for Loss of Employment’.
A note reference to the payment made- Note 5, says ‘Due to the restructure of 3 Rivers Developments Ltd, the Acting Managing Directors secondment from Mid Devon Council ended 31st March 2021 and as at the 1st April 2021 would be directly employed by 3 Rivers Development Ltd’.
Additionally, despite the individual involved remaining an MDDC employee had been seconded to 3 Rivers and for the full 2020-2021 financial year the same employee received a salary increase of 6.7% against the previous year, yet his peer group MDDC Officers received a salary increase of less than half that at 2.8%.
From the information it could be seen there was absolutely no loss of employment not even a break. That in fact the individual concerned was already on enhanced salary and pension terms.
Question 1:
What precisely was the £33,000 payment for as clearly it was not for loss of employment?
Question 2:
Was the payment related to any form of “Special Deal”?
Question 3:
Was the Council Leader and/or Cabinet involved in agreeingthe full terms of this £33,000 payment?
Question 4:
If not, why not?
Barry Warren
In 2019/20/21 you were Chairman of the Scrutiny Committee and I was also a member of that committee.
The Committee set up a Working Group to look into Planning Enforcement in Mid Devon District Council. I was the Chairman of that Working Group and our first meeting was on 11th March 2021. From the outset the Chief Executive and the Head of Planning insisted on being present to ‘advise and guide’, but committee members wanted to speak to officers ‘on the ground’ without them feeling restricted by senior management being present. One meeting had to be abandoned as the Chief Executive refused to leave. An accommodation was agreed and the Working Group carried out their task and a report presented to Scrutiny Committee on 21st September 2021 where 12 recommendations were made to Cabinet. This report is in the public domain.
Recommendation 8 was that the Local Enforcement Plan be rewritten – the desired outcome was for MDDC to have a robust Planning Enforcement Policy which would be implemented as the Working Group had been given many examples of non-enforcement to some quite serious breaches.
The Enforcement Plan was provisionally updated by an officer, and myself and another councillor offered to assist in finishing it off for presentation to Cabinet for adoption. Nothing happened to that Plan.
Since that time some of the simpler recommendations had been implemented but actual planning enforcement had deteriorated. One major landowner continues to operate in breach of conditions after more than 5 years without any sanction or action.
Officers, primarily the Director of Place, had given updates and assurances which in the main had turned out to be meaningless. Senior Management appears to be risk averse and seem to be controlling the agenda and recruitment to their own ideas.
A new Enforcement Plan was presented to Scrutiny and it was rejected in spite of the relevant Cabinet Member attempting to ‘persuade’ members to agree to approve it. It would basically had been a ‘do nothing’ plan although worded to make it look as if something could be done.
The Chair of Scrutiny at that time, who is now one of our Members of Parliament, publicly left the Chief Executive in no doubt that Enforcement in relation to planning had to be actioned. She appears to have been ignored and the Plan has been put back until ‘not before 15th October 2024.
At Cabinet Meeting on 9th July 2024 a member of the public asked questions about this and had submitted them in advance. To date no responses have been published. This is contrary to the Constitution and procedure.
It appears to the public that Senior Officers are taking little or no action regardless of what elected members or members of the public say.
Paul Elstone
Question 1:
At the Audit Committee Meeting of the 25th June a member of the 3 Rivers Working Group said the following. The Scrutiny Working Group supported the DAP findings in that no instances of fraud had been found.
Also, and I quote: ‘That I hope by now we can put those offensive allegations to bed’.
Unquote:
As a reminder these allegations were made by a former Council Leader and Members of the Public.
What was offensive was that DAP failed to properly investigate the allegations. Allegations not just related to fraud but to serious ethical conduct breaches. A statement I will justify.
Despite having the names of the persons making the allegations, the Working Group made no effort to speak to them. To the contrary it was a decided not to speak to the former Council Leaders, as this would unbalance the investigation. Why this would unbalance the investigation had never been satisfactorily explained or in any way can it be.
It was a fact that speaking to the former Council Leaders would had rebalanced a highly distorted representation.
It had also been said by some, including by the Monitoring Officer and current Council Leader that no evidence was provided to support the allegations.
Now some facts.
In an email to DAP dated 24th May 2023, DAP were told that some key evidence required was being blocked from release by MDDC Officers – It still is.
Evidence requiring the Information Commissioner and a 1st Tier Tribunal Judge to be involved to partially release just some of the documents required.
In follow up emails DAP were repeatedly told the evidence was being blocked. In an email DAP were told exactly what some of this evidence was. DAP did absolutely nothing to support the release of the evidence or mention this fact in their report.
That is offensive.
In an email to DAP dated the 24th May 2023, DAP were told exactly what needed to be investigated and in an email dated 26th May 2023 an offer was made to provide the names of personnel they needed to speak to.
DAP made absolutely no attempt to speak to those persons who the information and evidence had required. DAP again failed completely to mention this in their report.
That is offensive.
Another fact.
A Freedom of Information Request was made to release the Terms of Reference for the DAP investigation, given the investigation was very restrictive, again something complained about to DAP in various emails which they did absolutely nothing about.
A Freedom of Information request that was refused. DAP again have failed to mention this in any report. A Terms of Reference prepared by the very person major parts of the investigation could/should have revolved around.
That is offensive.
Given the evidence that is available, not to reopen a Fraud and Ethical Conduct investigation would be indefensible. Will the Chair of Scrutiny reopen the investigation?
Question 2
If not, why not ?
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